Comments on: The fight for the GSL&P http://lostfortcollins.com/2009/05/30/ghost-train-saving-the-gslp/ An unofficial exploration of Fort Collins History Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:38:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: catfc http://lostfortcollins.com/2009/05/30/ghost-train-saving-the-gslp/#comment-479 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:06:24 +0000 http://lostfortcollins.com/?p=1902#comment-479 Definitely the same place! Rose is very generous with her property. And it’s beautiful. She also just sent me a report from a birder who found 50 kinds of birds in that area. Some that haven’t been seen nesting in Fort Collins since 1928. I may combine your comment and the bird report into a new post…

I think I will go to the council meeting. But probably won’t speak. You?

]]> By: barefootmeg http://lostfortcollins.com/2009/05/30/ghost-train-saving-the-gslp/#comment-478 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:48:35 +0000 http://lostfortcollins.com/?p=1902#comment-478 From what your pictures show and from what you’ve described, that seems like the same property that my son’s cub scout troop camped on once. The owner is a friend of one of the scout leaders who has been camping there since he was little if I remember correctly.

It was an incredibly beautiful property. Right across the river (and down a bit) was a new housing development that, thankfully, we couldn’t see from where we camped. I’ve posted some pics of our camping event here. http://barefootmeg.multiply.com/photos/album/156/Cub_Scout_Camping_Trip_–_May_2006 What do you think? Same place?

Are you going to the meeting on Tuesday?

]]> By: catfc http://lostfortcollins.com/2009/05/30/ghost-train-saving-the-gslp/#comment-477 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:47:47 +0000 http://lostfortcollins.com/?p=1902#comment-477 Short answer: Yes.

I’m not a lawyer, and I don’t know the specifics of eminent domain. So maybe you’ve spotted a technical flaw in somebody’s wording. But the results are the same.

We long ago determined that water rights trump property rights. Here’s from Rose Laflin’s, Irrigation, Settlement, and Change on the Cache La Poudre River paper (search for a download the PDF):

“In 1872, a case before the territorial Supreme Court of Colorado entitled
Yunker v. Nichols, confirmed that a person … had the right
to divert water for irrigation over another’s land. In other words, an irrigator could divert water
to land away from a stream and getting water to his or her land was considered such a necessity
in the western climate that the right to do so preempted the right of private property.”

Also city limits, county lines, and even state lines mean little…otherwise Colorado would have stopped the Arkansas, South Platte, and the Colorado from ever reaching neighboring states (believe me, we tried!)

]]> By: barefootmeg http://lostfortcollins.com/2009/05/30/ghost-train-saving-the-gslp/#comment-476 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:41:19 +0000 http://lostfortcollins.com/?p=1902#comment-476 So Greeley can have imminent domain over property that’s not in Greeley? That bit confuses me.

]]> By: Greeley Pipeline: Where are the naked river people? « Lost Fort Collins blog http://lostfortcollins.com/2009/05/30/ghost-train-saving-the-gslp/#comment-475 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:02:28 +0000 http://lostfortcollins.com/?p=1902#comment-475 [...] 5, 2009 by catfc A few weeks ago, Lost Fort Collins blog published a story about the conflict around the Greeley pipeline that’s slated to trench through Fort Collins and some of our historic/natural areas soon.  I know it’s been in all the press, but there [...]

]]> By: Mary Dean http://lostfortcollins.com/2009/05/30/ghost-train-saving-the-gslp/#comment-474 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:07:33 +0000 http://lostfortcollins.com/?p=1902#comment-474 Thank you for this essay and the photos. I hope you had a chance to visit the pioneer cemetery that is there, too. Rose is my mom, and I, along with 8 brothers and sisters, grew up on this farm. Starting in the late 1970s, we watched our mom take on one foe after another… people who wanted to turn the farm into everything from a bike path, to a housing development, to a water holding pit. She had hoped to preserve it as a working farm, with a few small cabins along the river. Now it looks like all that work was for nothing. I am so glad there are people like you who appreciate what is being lost.

]]> By: Justine http://lostfortcollins.com/2009/05/30/ghost-train-saving-the-gslp/#comment-473 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:41:21 +0000 http://lostfortcollins.com/?p=1902#comment-473 Greeley needs to pipe the water to it’s treatment plant in Bellvue. Yes, the Poudre flows to Greeley, but Greeley does not have a drinking water treatment plant in Greeley.

]]> By: catfc http://lostfortcollins.com/2009/05/30/ghost-train-saving-the-gslp/#comment-472 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:44:01 +0000 http://lostfortcollins.com/?p=1902#comment-472 Maybe Rose has a better answer. So far, all I’ve heard is that you can write letters to the papers in Greeley and Fort Collins.

]]> By: Barb http://lostfortcollins.com/2009/05/30/ghost-train-saving-the-gslp/#comment-471 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:02:02 +0000 http://lostfortcollins.com/?p=1902#comment-471 So is there anything that can be done about this?

]]> By: catfc http://lostfortcollins.com/2009/05/30/ghost-train-saving-the-gslp/#comment-470 Sun, 31 May 2009 03:31:17 +0000 http://lostfortcollins.com/?p=1902#comment-470 Rose said Greeley figured out long ago that the water would be purer if treated in the foothills and piped downstream–rather than let nature carry it. My guess is that sort of thinking predated our caring about how water levels impacted natural areas. I can’t imagine a water treatment plant in Greeley is really more expensive than running a new pipeline 40 miles every 50 years. And I wonder why it’s not meeting the same outrage as the Glade Project.

But to be fair, I only heard one side of the story. Kevin Duggan is working on an article for the Coloradoan. And I know he spoke to Greeley about their view.
(Update: Duggan’s article appears now in the June 1 edition.

The pictures did just what I hoped they would do. I was frustrated reading about it and not seeing it. I went to some pretty funny lengths to try to get a view of it from public areas. Never could. I’m glad Rose and Mary were willing to talk to me and show me around.

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